Pt 64 sec-1 question 13

    • June 11, 2016 at 9:28 am #1985
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      So I was reading on the other sites, and I’m always a little confused when it comes to these “x does NOT Cause/help Y” conclusions. Can you think of these type of questions the same way a regular cause—>effect answer should be thought of?

       

    • June 15, 2016 at 7:50 am #2034
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Ok so I think I’m not going to put questions in the general discussion areas anymore lol

    • June 15, 2016 at 9:30 am #2037
      LSAT Dan
      Participant

      I’m a little unclear on what you’re asking, but if you have a specific question to link it to, or could elaborate a little on what you mean by think of it the same way, I’d be happy to take a crack at this one.

    • June 15, 2016 at 10:24 am #2038
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Basically, can I think of this as a cause and effect argument?

    • June 15, 2016 at 11:28 am #2041
      LSAT Dan
      Participant

      If you’re talking about a situation where it says something like, “People say that smoking causes cancer, but my uncle smoked for decades and he never got cancer, so clearly, smoking does not cause cancer,” then yes…that’s a cause and effect argument. Usually you’ll see it in situations where someone is generalizing from specific instances (like my example). It could be strengthened or weakened by additional evidence that either confirms or contradicts the conclusion, or it could show up as a flaw; the fact that there’s not a 100% connection doesn’t mean that there’s no causation involved.

    • June 15, 2016 at 12:09 pm #2045
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Yes, and what exactly are they doing to in (d) to make that the correct answer. I see why the others are wrong, but I don’t see why this is the correct answer

    • June 15, 2016 at 3:17 pm #2047
      LSAT Dan
      Participant

      Sorry; initially, I didn’t notice that this post was linked to a specific question.

      This question is getting at something more commonly seen in Flaw Questions – The biased sample. Imagine you were conducting a scientific experiment to determine whether or not stretching prevented injuries. What would you do? You’d probably take a bunch of joggers and split them into two groups, and you’d want those groups to be as equal as possible in terms of age, sex, physical condition, etc. then you’d have one group stretch, and you’d tell the other group not to stretch, and you’d see if there was a difference in the number of injuries you saw in the groups.

      That’s not what happened here; instead, we had a self-selecting sample. Runners decide on their own whether or not they want to stretch.me that sort of sample is always prone to some sort of bias. So now, you don’t have two equal groups, one of which stretches and the other doesn’t; you have two groups:

      1) Stretches *and is prone to injury*

      2) Does not stretch *and is not prone to injury*

      If stretching did not prevent injury (the conclusion of the passage), wouldn’t you expect more members of group 1 to get injured? They’re the injury-prone group. But that’s not what happened. Even though they’re more injury-prone, they had the exact same rate of injuries as group 2. That suggests that in fact, stretching DOES help prevent injury – by stretching, the injury prone group keeps their rate of injury to the same rate as a group who are NOT injury-prone.

      (Above analysis is on the assumption that (D) is true).

    • June 15, 2016 at 3:52 pm #2048
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Since I’m trying to find something that pokes a hole in the idea that stretching does not help to prevent injuries, should I almost treat this as a strengthen cause effect question?

    • June 15, 2016 at 4:16 pm #2049
      LSAT Dan
      Participant

      Well, in sense…you have a double negative: You’re trying to weaken the claim that stretching doesn’t help prevent injuries, so that’s the same thing as strengthening the claim that stretching *does*’help prevent injuries.

    • June 15, 2016 at 4:46 pm #2050
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Thanks for all your help.

    • June 15, 2016 at 5:29 pm #2051
      LSAT Dan
      Participant

      Very welcome…glad to help if/when I can!

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